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The Horrors of the Church and Its Holy Inquisition

http://churchandstate.org.uk/2016/04/the-horrors-of-the-church-and-its-holy-inquisition/

The Inquisition was an ecclesiastical court and process of the Roman
Catholic Church setup for the purpose towards the discovery and
punishment of heresy which wielded immense power and brutality in
medieval and early modern times. The Inquisitions function was
principally assembled to repress all heretics of rights, depriving
them of their estate and assets which became subject to the ownership
of the Catholic treasury, with each relentlessly sought to destroy
anyone who spoke, or even thought differently to the Catholic Church.
This system for close to over six centuries became the legal framework
throughout most of Europe that orchestrated one of the most confound
religious orders in the course of mankind.The Inquisition was an
ecclesiastical court and process of the Roman Catholic Church setup
for the purpose towards the discovery and punishment of heresy which
wielded immense power and brutality in medieval and early modern
times. The Inquisitions function was principally assembled to repress
all heretics of rights, depriving them of their estate and assets
which became subject to the ownership of the Catholic treasury, with
each relentlessly sought to destroy anyone who spoke, or even thought
differently to the Catholic Church. This system for close to over six
centuries became the legal framework throughout most of Europe that
orchestrated one of the most confound religious orders in the course
of mankind.
Patrick
2017-01-11 21:22:37 UTC
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The Horrors of the Church and Its Holy Inquisition
http://churchandstate.org.uk/2016/04/the-horrors-of-the-church-and-its-holy-inquisition/
The Inquisition was an ecclesiastical court and process of the Roman
Catholic Church setup for the purpose towards the discovery and
punishment of heresy
Thank you for the history lesson.
Now tell the class what you know about King Richard III.
Robert
2017-01-11 22:12:42 UTC
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Post by Mattb.
Posted at Patrick Barker
The Horrors of the Church and Its Holy Inquisition
http://churchandstate.org.uk/2016/04/the-horrors-of-the-church-and-its-holy-inquisition/
The Inquisition was an ecclesiastical court and process of the Roman
Catholic Church setup for the purpose towards the discovery and
punishment of heresy
Thank you for the history lesson.
Now tell the class what you know about King Richard III.
Why don't you?

And why don't you apologize for the evil behavior of your church?

Your church should go through their records and repay all the families
whose property they stole, with interests.


Silence gives consent.
[Lat., Qui tacet, consentire videtur.]
Pope Boniface VIII
Patrick
2017-01-12 00:13:29 UTC
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Post by Mattb.
Posted at Patrick Barker
The Horrors of the Church and Its Holy Inquisition
http://churchandstate.org.uk/2016/04/the-horrors-of-the-church-and-its-holy-inquisition/
The Inquisition was an ecclesiastical court and process of the Roman
Catholic Church setup for the purpose towards the discovery and
punishment of heresy
Thank you for the history lesson.
Now tell the class what you know about King Richard III.
Why don't you?
And why don't you apologize for the evil behavior of your church?
Di you have any names of those people who were hurt?
Post by Robert
Your church should go through their records and repay all the families
whose property they stole, with interests.
Right after the US Government pays reparations to the black slaves of
a mule and 40 acres.
Robert
2017-01-12 00:51:58 UTC
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Post by Robert
Post by Patrick
Post by Mattb.
Posted at Patrick Barker
The Horrors of the Church and Its Holy Inquisition
http://churchandstate.org.uk/2016/04/the-horrors-of-the-church-and-its-holy-inquisition/
The Inquisition was an ecclesiastical court and process of the Roman
Catholic Church setup for the purpose towards the discovery and
punishment of heresy
Thank you for the history lesson.
Now tell the class what you know about King Richard III.
Why don't you?
And why don't you apologize for the evil behavior of your church?
Di you have any names of those people who were hurt?
The church still has a good deal of the records, how else could they
remember who they were sending to heaven or hell?
Post by Patrick
Post by Robert
Your church should go through their records and repay all the families
whose property they stole, with interests.
Right after the US Government pays reparations to the black slaves of
a mule and 40 acres.
The government owes them nothing. They should be thankful for their
freedom.
Patrick
2017-01-12 17:29:44 UTC
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Post by Mattb.
Posted at Patrick Barker
The Horrors of the Church and Its Holy Inquisition
http://churchandstate.org.uk/2016/04/the-horrors-of-the-church-and-its-holy-inquisition/
The Inquisition was an ecclesiastical court and process of the Roman
Catholic Church setup for the purpose towards the discovery and
punishment of heresy
Thank you for the history lesson.
Now tell the class what you know about King Richard III.
Why don't you?
And why don't you apologize for the evil behavior of your church?
Di you have any names of those people who were hurt?
The church still has a good deal of the records, how else could they
remember who they were sending to heaven or hell?
The Church doesn't make that decision.
\If this is what you think, then you really are stupid.
Post by Robert
Post by Patrick
Post by Robert
Your church should go through their records and repay all the families
whose property they stole, with interests.
Right after the US Government pays reparations to the black slaves of
a mule and 40 acres.
The government owes them nothing. They should be thankful for their
freedom.
NOTHING?
the source of the policy of “40 acres and a mule” was Union General
William T. Sherman’s Special Field Order No. 15, issued on Jan. 16,
1865. (That account is half-right: Sherman prescribed the 40 acres in
that Order, but not the mule. The mule would come later.) But what
many accounts leave out is that this idea for massive land
redistribution actually was the result of a discussion that Sherman
and Secretary of War Edwin M. Stanton held four days before Sherman
issued the Order, with 20 leaders of the black community in Savannah,
Ga., where Sherman was headquartered following his famous March to the
Sea. The meeting was unprecedented in American history.
Robert
2017-01-12 19:32:12 UTC
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Post by Mattb.
Posted at Patrick Barker
The Horrors of the Church and Its Holy Inquisition
http://churchandstate.org.uk/2016/04/the-horrors-of-the-church-and-its-holy-inquisition/
The Inquisition was an ecclesiastical court and process of the Roman
Catholic Church setup for the purpose towards the discovery and
punishment of heresy
Thank you for the history lesson.
Now tell the class what you know about King Richard III.
Why don't you?
And why don't you apologize for the evil behavior of your church?
Di you have any names of those people who were hurt?
The church still has a good deal of the records, how else could they
remember who they were sending to heaven or hell?
The Church doesn't make that decision.
\If this is what you think, then you really are stupid.
Deny it all you want, you're still going to go through purgatory.

You pay money and the church opens the gates of heaven wide, irritate
them and they excommunicate you sending you to hell.
Post by Patrick
Post by Robert
Post by Patrick
Post by Robert
Your church should go through their records and repay all the families
whose property they stole, with interests.
Right after the US Government pays reparations to the black slaves of
a mule and 40 acres.
The government owes them nothing. They should be thankful for their
freedom.
NOTHING?
the source of the policy of “40 acres and a mule” was Union General
William T. Sherman’s Special Field Order No. 15, issued on Jan. 16,
1865. (That account is half-right: Sherman prescribed the 40 acres in
that Order, but not the mule. The mule would come later.) But what
many accounts leave out is that this idea for massive land
redistribution actually was the result of a discussion that Sherman
and Secretary of War Edwin M. Stanton held four days before Sherman
issued the Order, with 20 leaders of the black community in Savannah,
Ga., where Sherman was headquartered following his famous March to the
Sea. The meeting was unprecedented in American history.
They owed them nothing.
Patrick
2017-01-12 21:00:04 UTC
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Post by Mattb.
Posted at Patrick Barker
The Horrors of the Church and Its Holy Inquisition
http://churchandstate.org.uk/2016/04/the-horrors-of-the-church-and-its-holy-inquisition/
The Inquisition was an ecclesiastical court and process of the Roman
Catholic Church setup for the purpose towards the discovery and
punishment of heresy
Thank you for the history lesson.
Now tell the class what you know about King Richard III.
Why don't you?
And why don't you apologize for the evil behavior of your church?
Di you have any names of those people who were hurt?
The church still has a good deal of the records, how else could they
remember who they were sending to heaven or hell?
The Church doesn't make that decision.
\If this is what you think, then you really are stupid.
Deny it all you want, you're still going to go through purgatory.
You pay money and the church opens the gates of heaven wide, irritate
them and they excommunicate you sending you to hell.
Post by Patrick
Post by Robert
Post by Patrick
Post by Robert
Your church should go through their records and repay all the families
whose property they stole, with interests.
Right after the US Government pays reparations to the black slaves of
a mule and 40 acres.
The government owes them nothing. They should be thankful for their
freedom.
NOTHING?
the source of the policy of “40 acres and a mule” was Union General
William T. Sherman’s Special Field Order No. 15, issued on Jan. 16,
1865. (That account is half-right: Sherman prescribed the 40 acres in
that Order, but not the mule. The mule would come later.) But what
many accounts leave out is that this idea for massive land
redistribution actually was the result of a discussion that Sherman
and Secretary of War Edwin M. Stanton held four days before Sherman
issued the Order, with 20 leaders of the black community in Savannah,
Ga., where Sherman was headquartered following his famous March to the
Sea. The meeting was unprecedented in American history.
They owed them nothing.
That was just 150 years ago.
The Inquisition was a thousand years ago.
You demand we apologize for hurting others.
Yet, you refuse to apologize for enslaving entire races.
What a dip shit you are.
Robert
2017-01-12 23:26:42 UTC
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Post by Mattb.
Posted at Patrick Barker
The Horrors of the Church and Its Holy Inquisition
http://churchandstate.org.uk/2016/04/the-horrors-of-the-church-and-its-holy-inquisition/
The Inquisition was an ecclesiastical court and process of the Roman
Catholic Church setup for the purpose towards the discovery and
punishment of heresy
Thank you for the history lesson.
Now tell the class what you know about King Richard III.
Why don't you?
And why don't you apologize for the evil behavior of your church?
Di you have any names of those people who were hurt?
The church still has a good deal of the records, how else could they
remember who they were sending to heaven or hell?
The Church doesn't make that decision.
\If this is what you think, then you really are stupid.
Deny it all you want, you're still going to go through purgatory.
You pay money and the church opens the gates of heaven wide, irritate
them and they excommunicate you sending you to hell.
Post by Patrick
Post by Robert
Post by Patrick
Post by Robert
Your church should go through their records and repay all the families
whose property they stole, with interests.
Right after the US Government pays reparations to the black slaves of
a mule and 40 acres.
The government owes them nothing. They should be thankful for their
freedom.
NOTHING?
the source of the policy of “40 acres and a mule” was Union General
William T. Sherman’s Special Field Order No. 15, issued on Jan. 16,
1865. (That account is half-right: Sherman prescribed the 40 acres in
that Order, but not the mule. The mule would come later.) But what
many accounts leave out is that this idea for massive land
redistribution actually was the result of a discussion that Sherman
and Secretary of War Edwin M. Stanton held four days before Sherman
issued the Order, with 20 leaders of the black community in Savannah,
Ga., where Sherman was headquartered following his famous March to the
Sea. The meeting was unprecedented in American history.
They owed them nothing.
That was just 150 years ago.
The Inquisition was a thousand years ago.
You demand we apologize for hurting others.
Yet, you refuse to apologize for enslaving entire races.
What a dip shit you are.
Slavery was accepted and acknowledged by all peoples.
Many willingly put themselves into slavery and their kids.
The old testament even had rules regarding it.

I do not know of entire races being enslaved so how about you showing
us just one of them or prove yourself a liar, once again.

I am also not saying I personally condone it, or would participate in
it.
Patrick
2017-01-13 02:05:30 UTC
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Post by Mattb.
Posted at Patrick Barker
The Horrors of the Church and Its Holy Inquisition
http://churchandstate.org.uk/2016/04/the-horrors-of-the-church-and-its-holy-inquisition/
The Inquisition was an ecclesiastical court and process of the Roman
Catholic Church setup for the purpose towards the discovery and
punishment of heresy
Thank you for the history lesson.
Now tell the class what you know about King Richard III.
Why don't you?
And why don't you apologize for the evil behavior of your church?
Di you have any names of those people who were hurt?
The church still has a good deal of the records, how else could they
remember who they were sending to heaven or hell?
The Church doesn't make that decision.
\If this is what you think, then you really are stupid.
Deny it all you want, you're still going to go through purgatory.
You pay money and the church opens the gates of heaven wide, irritate
them and they excommunicate you sending you to hell.
Post by Patrick
Post by Robert
Post by Patrick
Post by Robert
Your church should go through their records and repay all the families
whose property they stole, with interests.
Right after the US Government pays reparations to the black slaves of
a mule and 40 acres.
The government owes them nothing. They should be thankful for their
freedom.
NOTHING?
the source of the policy of “40 acres and a mule” was Union General
William T. Sherman’s Special Field Order No. 15, issued on Jan. 16,
1865. (That account is half-right: Sherman prescribed the 40 acres in
that Order, but not the mule. The mule would come later.) But what
many accounts leave out is that this idea for massive land
redistribution actually was the result of a discussion that Sherman
and Secretary of War Edwin M. Stanton held four days before Sherman
issued the Order, with 20 leaders of the black community in Savannah,
Ga., where Sherman was headquartered following his famous March to the
Sea. The meeting was unprecedented in American history.
They owed them nothing.
That was just 150 years ago.
The Inquisition was a thousand years ago.
You demand we apologize for hurting others.
Yet, you refuse to apologize for enslaving entire races.
What a dip shit you are.
Slavery was accepted and acknowledged by all peoples.
Not all people.
The slaves didn't much care for the practice.

BTW, all peoples accept that God will judge us on our lives.
Post by Robert
Many willingly put themselves into slavery and their kids.
WOW. Slavery and Indentured Servants are not the same.
Post by Robert
The old testament even had rules regarding it.
Cough them up.
Post by Robert
I do not know of entire races being enslaved so how about you showing
us just one of them or prove yourself a liar, once again.
You don't remember the Jews being slaves in Egypt?
Have you ever heard of "MOSES?"
Let my people go?
Post by Robert
I am also not saying I personally condone it, or would participate in
it.
But you do not believe we owe them anything.
Right?
duke
2017-01-13 20:07:47 UTC
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Post by Mattb.
Posted at Patrick Barker
The Horrors of the Church and Its Holy Inquisition
http://churchandstate.org.uk/2016/04/the-horrors-of-the-church-and-its-holy-inquisition/
The Inquisition was an ecclesiastical court and process of the Roman
Catholic Church setup for the purpose towards the discovery and
punishment of heresy
Thank you for the history lesson.
Now tell the class what you know about King Richard III.
Why don't you?
And why don't you apologize for the evil behavior of your church?
Di you have any names of those people who were hurt?
The church still has a good deal of the records, how else could they
remember who they were sending to heaven or hell?
The Church doesn't make that decision.
\If this is what you think, then you really are stupid.
Deny it all you want, you're still going to go through purgatory.
You pay money and the church opens the gates of heaven wide, irritate
them and they excommunicate you sending you to hell.
Post by Patrick
Post by Robert
Post by Patrick
Post by Robert
Your church should go through their records and repay all the families
whose property they stole, with interests.
Right after the US Government pays reparations to the black slaves of
a mule and 40 acres.
The government owes them nothing. They should be thankful for their
freedom.
NOTHING?
the source of the policy of “40 acres and a mule” was Union General
William T. Sherman’s Special Field Order No. 15, issued on Jan. 16,
1865. (That account is half-right: Sherman prescribed the 40 acres in
that Order, but not the mule. The mule would come later.) But what
many accounts leave out is that this idea for massive land
redistribution actually was the result of a discussion that Sherman
and Secretary of War Edwin M. Stanton held four days before Sherman
issued the Order, with 20 leaders of the black community in Savannah,
Ga., where Sherman was headquartered following his famous March to the
Sea. The meeting was unprecedented in American history.
They owed them nothing.
That was just 150 years ago.
The Inquisition was a thousand years ago.
You demand we apologize for hurting others.
Yet, you refuse to apologize for enslaving entire races.
What a dip shit you are.
Slavery was accepted and acknowledged by all peoples.
Many willingly put themselves into slavery and their kids.
The old testament even had rules regarding it.
I do not know of entire races being enslaved so how about you showing
us just one of them or prove yourself a liar, once again.
Entire races??? Of what value is that? The key is that the Egyptian slavery
of the Hebrews was by and large a good life for them. Slavery of blacks from
Africa to America was a different situation. Not all slavery is the same.
Post by Robert
I am also not saying I personally condone it, or would participate in
it.
the dukester, American-American

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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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asherah
2017-01-14 07:18:41 UTC
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On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 15:26:42 -0800, Robert Snip cross posted to
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Are you going to answer walksalone's question. You know, this one.


Now, where is that message ID where you claim I called you a liar?

"Aristotle was once asked what those who tell lies gain by it. Said he,
"That when they speak truth they are not believed."
duke
2017-01-13 18:33:36 UTC
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Post by Mattb.
Posted at Patrick Barker
The Horrors of the Church and Its Holy Inquisition
http://churchandstate.org.uk/2016/04/the-horrors-of-the-church-and-its-holy-inquisition/
The Inquisition was an ecclesiastical court and process of the Roman
Catholic Church setup for the purpose towards the discovery and
punishment of heresy
Thank you for the history lesson.
Now tell the class what you know about King Richard III.
Why don't you?
And why don't you apologize for the evil behavior of your church?
Di you have any names of those people who were hurt?
The church still has a good deal of the records, how else could they
remember who they were sending to heaven or hell?
The Church doesn't make that decision.
\If this is what you think, then you really are stupid.
Deny it all you want, you're still going to go through purgatory.
Not if you're going to hell. It's a non stop trip
Post by Robert
You pay money and the church opens the gates of heaven wide, irritate
them and they excommunicate you sending you to hell.
Church doesn't do that. God is the one you have to hide from
Post by Robert
Post by Patrick
Post by Robert
Post by Patrick
Post by Robert
Your church should go through their records and repay all the families
whose property they stole, with interests.
Right after the US Government pays reparations to the black slaves of
a mule and 40 acres.
The government owes them nothing. They should be thankful for their
freedom.
NOTHING?
the source of the policy of “40 acres and a mule” was Union General
William T. Sherman’s Special Field Order No. 15, issued on Jan. 16,
1865. (That account is half-right: Sherman prescribed the 40 acres in
that Order, but not the mule. The mule would come later.) But what
many accounts leave out is that this idea for massive land
redistribution actually was the result of a discussion that Sherman
and Secretary of War Edwin M. Stanton held four days before Sherman
issued the Order, with 20 leaders of the black community in Savannah,
Ga., where Sherman was headquartered following his famous March to the
Sea. The meeting was unprecedented in American history.
They owed them nothing.
the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
asherah
2017-01-14 07:10:37 UTC
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Are you going to answer walksalone's question. You know, this one.


Now, where is that message ID where you claim I called you a liar?

"Aristotle was once asked what those who tell lies gain by it. Said he,
"That when they speak truth they are not believed."
asherah
2017-01-12 17:39:52 UTC
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On Wed, 11 Jan 2017 16:51:58 -0800, Robert snip

Are you going to answer walksalone's question. You know, this one.


Now, where is that message ID where you claim I called you a liar?

"Aristotle was once asked what those who tell lies gain by it. Said he,
"That when they speak truth they are not believed."
unknown
2017-01-11 23:55:29 UTC
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Post by Patrick
Post by Mattb.
The Horrors of the Church and Its Holy Inquisition
http://churchandstate.org.uk/2016/04/the-horrors-of-the-church-and-its-holy-inquisition/
The Inquisition was an ecclesiastical court and process of the Roman
Catholic Church setup for the purpose towards the discovery and
punishment of heresy
Thank you for the history lesson.
Now tell the class what you know about King Richard III.
Why don't you?
And why don't you apologize for the evil behavior of your church?
Your church should go through their records and repay all the families
whose property they stole, with interests.
Silence gives consent.
[Lat., Qui tacet, consentire videtur.]
Pope Boniface VIII
Take care for the plank in thine own eye before mentioning the splinter in
another's eye, we are reminded.

The era at issue saw the entire church of the west at its mutual throat.

Protestants have the same blood on their hands for the exact same
heretic hunting practices.

What does silence about the whole picture indicate?
Robert
2017-01-12 00:57:57 UTC
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Post by Patrick
Post by Mattb.
The Horrors of the Church and Its Holy Inquisition
http://churchandstate.org.uk/2016/04/the-horrors-of-the-church-and-its-holy-inquisition/
The Inquisition was an ecclesiastical court and process of the Roman
Catholic Church setup for the purpose towards the discovery and
punishment of heresy
Thank you for the history lesson.
Now tell the class what you know about King Richard III.
Why don't you?
And why don't you apologize for the evil behavior of your church?
Your church should go through their records and repay all the families
whose property they stole, with interests.
Silence gives consent.
[Lat., Qui tacet, consentire videtur.]
Pope Boniface VIII
Take care for the plank in thine own eye before mentioning the splinter in
another's eye, we are reminded.
The era at issue saw the entire church of the west at its mutual throat.
Protestants have the same blood on their hands for the exact same
heretic hunting practices.
What does silence about the whole picture indicate?
That some churches were well groomed by the RCC and had no other
proper training and were following the examples already established by
the big bullies. There error's were short lived, with those of the RCC
and O's went on for centuries.

You are attempting self justification and blame shifting once again.

It was wrong for both parties to do, and was written about in
scripture as well. It would do you well to listen to scripture for a
change.
duke
2017-01-12 12:15:42 UTC
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The Horrors of the Church and Its Holy Inquisition
http://churchandstate.org.uk/2016/04/the-horrors-of-the-church-and-its-holy-inquisition/
The Inquisition was an ecclesiastical court and process of the Roman
Catholic Church setup for the purpose towards the discovery and
punishment of heresy
Thank you for the history lesson.
Now tell the class what you know about King Richard III.
Why don't you?
And why don't you apologize for the evil behavior of your church?
Your church should go through their records and repay all the families
whose property they stole, with interests.
Silence gives consent.
[Lat., Qui tacet, consentire videtur.]
Pope Boniface VIII
Take care for the plank in thine own eye before mentioning the splinter in
another's eye, we are reminded.
The era at issue saw the entire church of the west at its mutual throat.
Protestants have the same blood on their hands for the exact same
heretic hunting practices.
What does silence about the whole picture indicate?
That some churches were well groomed by the RCC and had no other
proper training and were following the examples already established by
the big bullies. There error's were short lived, with those of the RCC
and O's went on for centuries.
You are attempting self justification and blame shifting once again.
It was wrong for both parties to do, and was written about in
scripture as well. It would do you well to listen to scripture for a
change.
Haahaahaa. I wonder what he thinks he sees now.

the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
Robert
2017-01-12 17:02:04 UTC
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The Horrors of the Church and Its Holy Inquisition
http://churchandstate.org.uk/2016/04/the-horrors-of-the-church-and-its-holy-inquisition/
The Inquisition was an ecclesiastical court and process of the Roman
Catholic Church setup for the purpose towards the discovery and
punishment of heresy
Thank you for the history lesson.
Now tell the class what you know about King Richard III.
Why don't you?
And why don't you apologize for the evil behavior of your church?
Your church should go through their records and repay all the families
whose property they stole, with interests.
Silence gives consent.
[Lat., Qui tacet, consentire videtur.]
Pope Boniface VIII
Take care for the plank in thine own eye before mentioning the splinter in
another's eye, we are reminded.
The era at issue saw the entire church of the west at its mutual throat.
Protestants have the same blood on their hands for the exact same
heretic hunting practices.
What does silence about the whole picture indicate?
That some churches were well groomed by the RCC and had no other
proper training and were following the examples already established by
the big bullies. There error's were short lived, with those of the RCC
and O's went on for centuries.
You are attempting self justification and blame shifting once again.
It was wrong for both parties to do, and was written about in
scripture as well. It would do you well to listen to scripture for a
change.
Haahaahaa. I wonder what he thinks he sees now.
the dukester, American-American
You only show what you do not know here.
You said you knew the bible way better than I?
duke
2017-01-12 17:21:20 UTC
Permalink
Post by Robert
Post by duke
Post by Robert
Post by unknown
Post by Robert
Post by Patrick
Post by Mattb.
The Horrors of the Church and Its Holy Inquisition
http://churchandstate.org.uk/2016/04/the-horrors-of-the-church-and-its-holy-inquisition/
The Inquisition was an ecclesiastical court and process of the Roman
Catholic Church setup for the purpose towards the discovery and
punishment of heresy
Thank you for the history lesson.
Now tell the class what you know about King Richard III.
Why don't you?
And why don't you apologize for the evil behavior of your church?
Your church should go through their records and repay all the families
whose property they stole, with interests.
Silence gives consent.
[Lat., Qui tacet, consentire videtur.]
Pope Boniface VIII
Take care for the plank in thine own eye before mentioning the splinter in
another's eye, we are reminded.
The era at issue saw the entire church of the west at its mutual throat.
Protestants have the same blood on their hands for the exact same
heretic hunting practices.
What does silence about the whole picture indicate?
That some churches were well groomed by the RCC and had no other
proper training and were following the examples already established by
the big bullies. There error's were short lived, with those of the RCC
and O's went on for centuries.
You are attempting self justification and blame shifting once again.
It was wrong for both parties to do, and was written about in
scripture as well. It would do you well to listen to scripture for a
change.
Haahaahaa. I wonder what he thinks he sees now.
You only show what you do not know here.
You said you knew the bible way better than I?
Oh, I well show what YOU don't know.

I'm your worse nightmare: A Roman Catholic well knowledgeable of scripture that
you don't yourself know.

the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
Robert
2017-01-12 19:22:40 UTC
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Post by duke
I'm your worse nightmare: A Roman Catholic well knowledgeable of scripture that
you don't yourself know.
the dukester, American-American
BBBBBWWAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
duke
2017-01-13 18:27:46 UTC
Permalink
Post by Robert
Post by duke
I'm your worse nightmare: A Roman Catholic well knowledgeable of scripture that
you don't yourself know.
the dukester, American-American
BBBBBWWAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
Can you advise why the Gospel of John is no synoptic?

the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
Robert
2017-01-14 19:27:06 UTC
Permalink
Post by duke
Post by Robert
Post by duke
I'm your worse nightmare: A Roman Catholic well knowledgeable of scripture that
you don't yourself know.
the dukester, American-American
BBBBBWWAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
Can you advise why the Gospel of John is no synoptic?
No, God is the one who directed the inspiration of His word.
Post by duke
the dukester, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
duke
2017-01-15 13:44:32 UTC
Permalink
Post by Robert
Post by Robert
Post by duke
I'm your worse nightmare: A Roman Catholic well knowledgeable of scripture that
you don't yourself know.
the dukester, American-American
BBBBBWWAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
Can you advise why the Gospel of John is not synoptic?
No, God is the one who directed the inspiration of His word.
I figured you didn't have a clue.

the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
astarte
2017-01-15 15:03:01 UTC
Permalink
On Sat, 14 Jan 2017 11:27:06 -0800, Robert snip
Cross posted
to:alt.bible,alt.christnet.christianlife,alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic.
Follow up set

Are you going to answer walksalone's question. You know, this one.


Now, where is that message ID where you claim I called you a liar?

"Aristotle was once asked what those who tell lies gain by it. Said he,
"That when they speak truth they are not believed."

asherah
2017-01-14 07:07:50 UTC
Permalink
On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 11:22:40 -0800, Robert cross posted to
alt.bible,alt.christian.religion,alt.christnet.christianlife,alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic
Post by Robert
Post by duke
I'm your worse nightmare: A Roman Catholic well knowledgeable of scripture that
you don't yourself know.
the dukester, American-American
BBBBBWWAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
Duke might be right after all. Odd as that sounds given his ignorance of
the myth.


Are you going to answer walksalone's question. You know, this one.


Now, where is that message ID where you claim I called you a liar?

"Aristotle was once asked what those who tell lies gain by it. Said he,
"That when they speak truth they are not believed."
asherah
2017-01-14 06:55:50 UTC
Permalink
On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 09:02:04 -0800, Robert snip crosspost
alt.bible,alt.christian.religion,alt.christnet.christianlife,alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic


Are you going to answer walksalone's question. You know, this one.


Now, where is that message ID where you claim I called you a liar?

"Aristotle was once asked what those who tell lies gain by it. Said he,
"That when they speak truth they are not believed."
asherah
2017-01-14 07:24:26 UTC
Permalink
On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 09:02:04 -0800, Robert Snip cross posted to
alt.bible,alt.christian.religion,alt.christnet.christianlife,alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic
Post by Robert
You said you knew the bible way better than I?
Based on your posting history, he just might.


Are you going to answer walksalone's question. You know, this one.


Now, where is that message ID where you claim I called you a liar?

"Aristotle was once asked what those who tell lies gain by it. Said he,
"That when they speak truth they are not believed."
Patrick
2017-01-12 12:58:29 UTC
Permalink
Post by Robert
Post by unknown
Post by Robert
Post by Patrick
Post by Mattb.
The Horrors of the Church and Its Holy Inquisition
http://churchandstate.org.uk/2016/04/the-horrors-of-the-church-and-its-holy-inquisition/
The Inquisition was an ecclesiastical court and process of the Roman
Catholic Church setup for the purpose towards the discovery and
punishment of heresy
Thank you for the history lesson.
Now tell the class what you know about King Richard III.
Why don't you?
And why don't you apologize for the evil behavior of your church?
Your church should go through their records and repay all the families
whose property they stole, with interests.
Silence gives consent.
[Lat., Qui tacet, consentire videtur.]
Pope Boniface VIII
Take care for the plank in thine own eye before mentioning the splinter in
another's eye, we are reminded.
The era at issue saw the entire church of the west at its mutual throat.
Protestants have the same blood on their hands for the exact same
heretic hunting practices.
What does silence about the whole picture indicate?
That some churches were well groomed by the RCC and had no other
proper training and were following the examples already established by
the big bullies. There error's were short lived, with those of the RCC
and O's went on for centuries.
You are attempting self justification and blame shifting once again.
It was wrong for both parties to do, and was written about in
scripture as well. It would do you well to listen to scripture for a
change.
Well..... I am waiting....
Robert
2017-01-12 17:04:15 UTC
Permalink
Post by Patrick
Post by Robert
Post by unknown
Post by Robert
Post by Patrick
Post by Mattb.
The Horrors of the Church and Its Holy Inquisition
http://churchandstate.org.uk/2016/04/the-horrors-of-the-church-and-its-holy-inquisition/
The Inquisition was an ecclesiastical court and process of the Roman
Catholic Church setup for the purpose towards the discovery and
punishment of heresy
Thank you for the history lesson.
Now tell the class what you know about King Richard III.
Why don't you?
And why don't you apologize for the evil behavior of your church?
Your church should go through their records and repay all the families
whose property they stole, with interests.
Silence gives consent.
[Lat., Qui tacet, consentire videtur.]
Pope Boniface VIII
Take care for the plank in thine own eye before mentioning the splinter in
another's eye, we are reminded.
The era at issue saw the entire church of the west at its mutual throat.
Protestants have the same blood on their hands for the exact same
heretic hunting practices.
What does silence about the whole picture indicate?
That some churches were well groomed by the RCC and had no other
proper training and were following the examples already established by
the big bullies. There error's were short lived, with those of the RCC
and O's went on for centuries.
You are attempting self justification and blame shifting once again.
It was wrong for both parties to do, and was written about in
scripture as well. It would do you well to listen to scripture for a
change.
Well..... I am waiting....
What for?
You are another one who says they are an expert at the bible.

Silence gives consent.
[Lat., Qui tacet, consentire videtur.]
Pope Boniface VIII
Patrick
2017-01-12 20:57:22 UTC
Permalink
Post by Robert
Post by Patrick
Post by Robert
Post by unknown
Post by Robert
Post by Patrick
Post by Mattb.
The Horrors of the Church and Its Holy Inquisition
http://churchandstate.org.uk/2016/04/the-horrors-of-the-church-and-its-holy-inquisition/
The Inquisition was an ecclesiastical court and process of the Roman
Catholic Church setup for the purpose towards the discovery and
punishment of heresy
Thank you for the history lesson.
Now tell the class what you know about King Richard III.
Why don't you?
And why don't you apologize for the evil behavior of your church?
Your church should go through their records and repay all the families
whose property they stole, with interests.
Silence gives consent.
[Lat., Qui tacet, consentire videtur.]
Pope Boniface VIII
Take care for the plank in thine own eye before mentioning the splinter in
another's eye, we are reminded.
The era at issue saw the entire church of the west at its mutual throat.
Protestants have the same blood on their hands for the exact same
heretic hunting practices.
What does silence about the whole picture indicate?
That some churches were well groomed by the RCC and had no other
proper training and were following the examples already established by
the big bullies. There error's were short lived, with those of the RCC
and O's went on for centuries.
You are attempting self justification and blame shifting once again.
It was wrong for both parties to do, and was written about in
scripture as well. It would do you well to listen to scripture for a
change.
Well..... I am waiting....
What for?
You are another one who says they are an expert at the bible.
LIAR.
I have never made that claim.
Robert
2017-01-14 19:17:56 UTC
Permalink
Post by Patrick
Post by Robert
Post by Patrick
Post by Robert
Post by unknown
Post by Robert
Post by Patrick
Post by Mattb.
The Horrors of the Church and Its Holy Inquisition
http://churchandstate.org.uk/2016/04/the-horrors-of-the-church-and-its-holy-inquisition/
The Inquisition was an ecclesiastical court and process of the Roman
Catholic Church setup for the purpose towards the discovery and
punishment of heresy
Thank you for the history lesson.
Now tell the class what you know about King Richard III.
Why don't you?
And why don't you apologize for the evil behavior of your church?
Your church should go through their records and repay all the families
whose property they stole, with interests.
Silence gives consent.
[Lat., Qui tacet, consentire videtur.]
Pope Boniface VIII
Take care for the plank in thine own eye before mentioning the splinter in
another's eye, we are reminded.
The era at issue saw the entire church of the west at its mutual throat.
Protestants have the same blood on their hands for the exact same
heretic hunting practices.
What does silence about the whole picture indicate?
That some churches were well groomed by the RCC and had no other
proper training and were following the examples already established by
the big bullies. There error's were short lived, with those of the RCC
and O's went on for centuries.
You are attempting self justification and blame shifting once again.
It was wrong for both parties to do, and was written about in
scripture as well. It would do you well to listen to scripture for a
change.
Well..... I am waiting....
What for?
You are another one who says they are an expert at the bible.
LIAR.
I have never made that claim.
ROTFLAY,
You said to ask you anything. Good to see you backing down.
Patrick
2017-01-14 20:32:45 UTC
Permalink
Post by Robert
Post by Patrick
Post by Robert
Post by Patrick
Post by Robert
Post by unknown
Post by Robert
Post by Patrick
Post by Mattb.
The Horrors of the Church and Its Holy Inquisition
http://churchandstate.org.uk/2016/04/the-horrors-of-the-church-and-its-holy-inquisition/
The Inquisition was an ecclesiastical court and process of the Roman
Catholic Church setup for the purpose towards the discovery and
punishment of heresy
Thank you for the history lesson.
Now tell the class what you know about King Richard III.
Why don't you?
And why don't you apologize for the evil behavior of your church?
Your church should go through their records and repay all the families
whose property they stole, with interests.
Silence gives consent.
[Lat., Qui tacet, consentire videtur.]
Pope Boniface VIII
Take care for the plank in thine own eye before mentioning the splinter in
another's eye, we are reminded.
The era at issue saw the entire church of the west at its mutual throat.
Protestants have the same blood on their hands for the exact same
heretic hunting practices.
What does silence about the whole picture indicate?
That some churches were well groomed by the RCC and had no other
proper training and were following the examples already established by
the big bullies. There error's were short lived, with those of the RCC
and O's went on for centuries.
You are attempting self justification and blame shifting once again.
It was wrong for both parties to do, and was written about in
scripture as well. It would do you well to listen to scripture for a
change.
Well..... I am waiting....
What for?
You are another one who says they are an expert at the bible.
LIAR.
I have never made that claim.
ROTFLAY,
You said to ask you anything. Good to see you backing down.
You can ask me anything.
I certainly don't know all the answers.
However, I know where to find the answers.
Simple.... Really....
astarte
2017-01-15 15:02:26 UTC
Permalink
On Sat, 14 Jan 2017 11:17:56 -0800, Robert snip
Cross posted
to:alt.bible,alt.christnet.christianlife,alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic.
Follow up set


Are you going to answer walksalone's question. You know, this one.


Now, where is that message ID where you claim I called you a liar?

"Aristotle was once asked what those who tell lies gain by it. Said he,
"That when they speak truth they are not believed."
asherah
2017-01-14 06:56:38 UTC
Permalink
On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 09:04:15 -0800, Robert wrote:Snip cross posted to
alt.bible,alt.christian.religion,alt.christnet.christianlife,alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic

Are you going to answer walksalone's question. You know, this one.


Now, where is that message ID where you claim I called you a liar?

"Aristotle was once asked what those who tell lies gain by it. Said he,
"That when they speak truth they are not believed."
unknown
2017-01-12 15:22:48 UTC
Permalink
Post by Robert
Post by unknown
Post by Robert
Post by Patrick
Post by Mattb.
The Horrors of the Church and Its Holy Inquisition
http://churchandstate.org.uk/2016/04/the-horrors-of-the-church-and-its-holy-inquisition/
The Inquisition was an ecclesiastical court and process of the Roman
Catholic Church setup for the purpose towards the discovery and
punishment of heresy
Thank you for the history lesson.
Now tell the class what you know about King Richard III.
Why don't you?
And why don't you apologize for the evil behavior of your church?
Your church should go through their records and repay all the families
whose property they stole, with interests.
Silence gives consent.
[Lat., Qui tacet, consentire videtur.]
Pope Boniface VIII
Take care for the plank in thine own eye before mentioning the splinter in
another's eye, we are reminded.
The era at issue saw the entire church of the west at its mutual throat.
Protestants have the same blood on their hands for the exact same
heretic hunting practices.
What does silence about the whole picture indicate?
That some churches were well groomed by the RCC and had no other
proper training and were following the examples already established by
the big bullies. There error's were short lived, with those of the RCC
and O's went on for centuries.
Ah, we see; the protestants did it in the missing 400 year gap so they can
be excused?

And "we did it because they did it first" is it? Brings the new
commandment of love to a new high it appears.

They did it for the exact same reason they themselves stated, to root out
heresy and witchcraft.

Then they added a twist unique to themselves. When the protestant movement
splintered from the start they did it between protestant groups.

Given the logic being spouted, any individual in a group who derived from
the protestants in any form bear on their heads the guilt. Now ain't that
special?
Post by Robert
You are attempting self justification and blame shifting once again.
Sorry bub, ain't rcc or protestant. Any reader can decide who is doing
lame excuses> and blame shifting.
Post by Robert
It was wrong for both parties to do, and was written about in
scripture as well. It would do you well to listen to scripture for a
change.
That is found in the 2nd book of 'cronicles of the western church disputes'
isn't it?
Now back to that plank ...
Robert
2017-01-12 17:12:22 UTC
Permalink
Post by unknown
Post by Robert
Post by unknown
Post by Robert
Post by Patrick
Post by Mattb.
The Horrors of the Church and Its Holy Inquisition
http://churchandstate.org.uk/2016/04/the-horrors-of-the-church-and-its-holy-inquisition/
The Inquisition was an ecclesiastical court and process of the Roman
Catholic Church setup for the purpose towards the discovery and
punishment of heresy
Thank you for the history lesson.
Now tell the class what you know about King Richard III.
Why don't you?
And why don't you apologize for the evil behavior of your church?
Your church should go through their records and repay all the families
whose property they stole, with interests.
Silence gives consent.
[Lat., Qui tacet, consentire videtur.]
Pope Boniface VIII
Take care for the plank in thine own eye before mentioning the splinter in
another's eye, we are reminded.
The era at issue saw the entire church of the west at its mutual throat.
Protestants have the same blood on their hands for the exact same
heretic hunting practices.
What does silence about the whole picture indicate?
That some churches were well groomed by the RCC and had no other
proper training and were following the examples already established by
the big bullies. There error's were short lived, with those of the RCC
and O's went on for centuries.
Ah, we see; the protestants did it in the missing 400 year gap so they can
be excused?
My, that certainly was a stupid comment. There were no protestants
then.
Post by unknown
And "we did it because they did it first" is it? Brings the new
commandment of love to a new high it appears.
No stupid, can't you read?
Post by unknown
They did it for the exact same reason they themselves stated, to root out
heresy and witchcraft.
And it was an evil thing to do, regardless who did it. That is what
they grew up with and was accepted by the RC an O, that was the point.
Post by unknown
Then they added a twist unique to themselves. When the protestant movement
splintered from the start they did it between protestant groups.
Training they hadn't shunned yet. The bible speaks against that, a
point you do not seem to know.
Post by unknown
Given the logic being spouted, any individual in a group who derived from
the protestants in any form bear on their heads the guilt. Now ain't that
special?
Post by Robert
You are attempting self justification and blame shifting once again.
Sorry Fool, I am not a protestant, and bear no responsibility to those
that sinned like that. Most all of those organizations have been long
gone. Your rhetoric is unjustified.
Post by unknown
Sorry bub, ain't rcc or protestant. Any reader can decide who is doing
lame excuses> and blame shifting.
Nuther stupid comment.
Post by unknown
Post by Robert
It was wrong for both parties to do, and was written about in
scripture as well. It would do you well to listen to scripture for a
change.
That is found in the 2nd book of 'cronicles of the western church disputes'
isn't it?
Now back to that plank ...
Your plank of scriptural ignorance?
The best you can do is mock scripture?
unknown
2017-01-12 17:50:15 UTC
Permalink
Post by Robert
Post by unknown
Post by Robert
Post by unknown
Post by Robert
Post by Patrick
Post by Mattb.
The Horrors of the Church and Its Holy Inquisition
http://churchandstate.org.uk/2016/04/the-horrors-of-the-church-and-its-holy-inquisition/
The Inquisition was an ecclesiastical court and process of the Roman
Catholic Church setup for the purpose towards the discovery and
punishment of heresy
Thank you for the history lesson.
Now tell the class what you know about King Richard III.
Why don't you?
And why don't you apologize for the evil behavior of your church?
Your church should go through their records and repay all the families
whose property they stole, with interests.
Silence gives consent.
[Lat., Qui tacet, consentire videtur.]
Pope Boniface VIII
Take care for the plank in thine own eye before mentioning the splinter in
another's eye, we are reminded.
The era at issue saw the entire church of the west at its mutual throat.
Protestants have the same blood on their hands for the exact same
heretic hunting practices.
What does silence about the whole picture indicate?
That some churches were well groomed by the RCC and had no other
proper training and were following the examples already established by
the big bullies. There error's were short lived, with those of the RCC
and O's went on for centuries.
Ah, we see; the protestants did it in the missing 400 year gap so they can
be excused?
My, that certainly was a stupid comment. There were no protestants
then.
Post by unknown
And "we did it because they did it first" is it? Brings the new
commandment of love to a new high it appears.
No stupid, can't you read?
Post by unknown
They did it for the exact same reason they themselves stated, to root out
heresy and witchcraft.
And it was an evil thing to do, regardless who did it. That is what
they grew up with and was accepted by the RC an O, that was the point.
Post by unknown
Then they added a twist unique to themselves. When the protestant movement
splintered from the start they did it between protestant groups.
Training they hadn't shunned yet. The bible speaks against that, a
point you do not seem to know.
Post by unknown
Given the logic being spouted, any individual in a group who derived from
the protestants in any form bear on their heads the guilt. Now ain't that
special?
Post by Robert
You are attempting self justification and blame shifting once again.
Sorry Fool, I am not a protestant, and bear no responsibility to those
that sinned like that. Most all of those organizations have been long
gone. Your rhetoric is unjustified.
Post by unknown
Sorry bub, ain't rcc or protestant. Any reader can decide who is doing
lame excuses> and blame shifting.
Nuther stupid comment.
Post by unknown
Post by Robert
It was wrong for both parties to do, and was written about in
scripture as well. It would do you well to listen to scripture for a
change.
That is found in the 2nd book of 'cronicles of the western church disputes'
isn't it?
Now back to that plank ...
Your plank of scriptural ignorance?
The best you can do is mock scripture?
As said previously, I leave it to readers to evaluate this fine bit of
self serving rhetorical word dance.

One bit stands out in particular, "I ain't no protestant".

A fine two step dance move excluding self from the logic being spouted.

Namely anyone now is guilty of the sin from whom they derive historically
their current doctrine/tradition/dogmas. As to the claim "ain't no", a
rose by any name ... one thinks.
Robert
2017-01-12 19:26:38 UTC
Permalink
Post by unknown
Post by Robert
Post by unknown
Post by Robert
Post by unknown
Post by Robert
Post by Patrick
Post by Mattb.
The Horrors of the Church and Its Holy Inquisition
http://churchandstate.org.uk/2016/04/the-horrors-of-the-church-and-its-holy-inquisition/
The Inquisition was an ecclesiastical court and process of the Roman
Catholic Church setup for the purpose towards the discovery and
punishment of heresy
Thank you for the history lesson.
Now tell the class what you know about King Richard III.
Why don't you?
And why don't you apologize for the evil behavior of your church?
Your church should go through their records and repay all the families
whose property they stole, with interests.
Silence gives consent.
[Lat., Qui tacet, consentire videtur.]
Pope Boniface VIII
Take care for the plank in thine own eye before mentioning the splinter in
another's eye, we are reminded.
The era at issue saw the entire church of the west at its mutual throat.
Protestants have the same blood on their hands for the exact same
heretic hunting practices.
What does silence about the whole picture indicate?
That some churches were well groomed by the RCC and had no other
proper training and were following the examples already established by
the big bullies. There error's were short lived, with those of the RCC
and O's went on for centuries.
Ah, we see; the protestants did it in the missing 400 year gap so they can
be excused?
My, that certainly was a stupid comment. There were no protestants
then.
Post by unknown
And "we did it because they did it first" is it? Brings the new
commandment of love to a new high it appears.
No stupid, can't you read?
Post by unknown
They did it for the exact same reason they themselves stated, to root out
heresy and witchcraft.
And it was an evil thing to do, regardless who did it. That is what
they grew up with and was accepted by the RC an O, that was the point.
Post by unknown
Then they added a twist unique to themselves. When the protestant movement
splintered from the start they did it between protestant groups.
Training they hadn't shunned yet. The bible speaks against that, a
point you do not seem to know.
Post by unknown
Given the logic being spouted, any individual in a group who derived from
the protestants in any form bear on their heads the guilt. Now ain't that
special?
Post by Robert
You are attempting self justification and blame shifting once again.
Sorry Fool, I am not a protestant, and bear no responsibility to those
that sinned like that. Most all of those organizations have been long
gone. Your rhetoric is unjustified.
Post by unknown
Sorry bub, ain't rcc or protestant. Any reader can decide who is doing
lame excuses> and blame shifting.
Nuther stupid comment.
Post by unknown
Post by Robert
It was wrong for both parties to do, and was written about in
scripture as well. It would do you well to listen to scripture for a
change.
That is found in the 2nd book of 'cronicles of the western church disputes'
isn't it?
Now back to that plank ...
Your plank of scriptural ignorance?
The best you can do is mock scripture?
As said previously, I leave it to readers to evaluate this fine bit of
self serving rhetorical word dance.
One bit stands out in particular, "I ain't no protestant".
A fine two step dance move excluding self from the logic being spouted.
Namely anyone now is guilty of the sin from whom they derive historically
their current doctrine/tradition/dogmas. As to the claim "ain't no", a
rose by any name ... one thinks.
You're the one sitting here defending your faith, claiming its a
direct 2K line, all historically derived......from the annals of your
religion only.

All you do is parrot idiocy, but you do it proudly.
You're didn't name yourself FOOL for no reason.
asherah
2017-01-14 07:09:32 UTC
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Post by Robert
All you do is parrot idiocy, but you do it proudly.
Indeed you do. BTGW, that should read, I, not you.
Post by Robert
You're didn't name yourself FOOL for no reason.
That was your attempt to belittle others, one of your favorite dances.

Are you going to answer walksalone's question. You know, this one.


Now, where is that message ID where you claim I called you a liar?

"Aristotle was once asked what those who tell lies gain by it. Said he,
"That when they speak truth they are not believed."
asherah
2017-01-14 06:57:20 UTC
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Are you going to answer walksalone's question. You know, this one.


Now, where is that message ID where you claim I called you a liar?

"Aristotle was once asked what those who tell lies gain by it. Said he,
"That when they speak truth they are not believed."
asherah
2017-01-12 17:41:23 UTC
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Are you going to answer walksalone's question. You know, this one.


Now, where is that message ID where you claim I called you a liar?

"Aristotle was once asked what those who tell lies gain by it. Said he,
"That when they speak truth they are not believed."
asherah
2017-01-12 17:40:49 UTC
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Are you going to answer walksalone's question. You know, this one.


Now, where is that message ID where you claim I called you a liar?

"Aristotle was once asked what those who tell lies gain by it. Said he,
"That when they speak truth they are not believed."
duke
2017-01-12 17:27:01 UTC
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Posted at Patrick Barker, Great Falls Central Catholic High School
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The Horrors of the Church and Its Holy Inquisition
http://churchandstate.org.uk/2016/04/the-horrors-of-the-church-and-its-holy-inquisition/
The Inquisition was an ecclesiastical court and process of the Roman
Catholic Church setup for the purpose towards the discovery and
punishment of heresy which wielded immense power and brutality in
medieval and early modern times.
Hey, firewater, did you get that. It's what I've been telling you.
Post by Mattb.
The Inquisitions function was principally assembled to repress
all heretics of rights, depriving them of their estate and assets
which became subject to the ownership of the Catholic treasury, with
each relentlessly sought to destroy anyone who spoke, or even thought
differently to the Catholic Church.
“Anyone who attempts to construe a personal view of God which conflicts with
Church dogma must be burned without pity.”
– Pope Innocent III


the dukester, American-American

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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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Robert
2017-01-12 19:35:20 UTC
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Post by duke
Post by Mattb.
Posted at Patrick Barker, Great Falls Central Catholic High School
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The Horrors of the Church and Its Holy Inquisition
http://churchandstate.org.uk/2016/04/the-horrors-of-the-church-and-its-holy-inquisition/
The Inquisition was an ecclesiastical court and process of the Roman
Catholic Church setup for the purpose towards the discovery and
punishment of heresy which wielded immense power and brutality in
medieval and early modern times.
Hey, firewater, did you get that. It's what I've been telling you.
You've been saying that the RCC didn't do this, but civil courts did.
Post by duke
Post by Mattb.
The Inquisitions function was principally assembled to repress
all heretics of rights, depriving them of their estate and assets
which became subject to the ownership of the Catholic treasury, with
each relentlessly sought to destroy anyone who spoke, or even thought
differently to the Catholic Church.
“Anyone who attempts to construe a personal view of God which conflicts with
Church dogma must be burned without pity.”
– Pope Innocent III
And you so proud of that church.
Post by duke
the dukester, American-American
Patrick
2017-01-12 21:01:45 UTC
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Post by duke
Post by Mattb.
Posted at Patrick Barker, Great Falls Central Catholic High School
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The Horrors of the Church and Its Holy Inquisition
http://churchandstate.org.uk/2016/04/the-horrors-of-the-church-and-its-holy-inquisition/
The Inquisition was an ecclesiastical court and process of the Roman
Catholic Church setup for the purpose towards the discovery and
punishment of heresy which wielded immense power and brutality in
medieval and early modern times.
Hey, firewater, did you get that. It's what I've been telling you.
You've been saying that the RCC didn't do this, but civil courts did.
The RCC set up the courts.
The civil authorities dealt out the punishments.
Post by Robert
Post by duke
Post by Mattb.
The Inquisitions function was principally assembled to repress
all heretics of rights, depriving them of their estate and assets
which became subject to the ownership of the Catholic treasury, with
each relentlessly sought to destroy anyone who spoke, or even thought
differently to the Catholic Church.
“Anyone who attempts to construe a personal view of God which conflicts with
Church dogma must be burned without pity.”
– Pope Innocent III
And you so proud of that church.
Didn't that guy live a thousand years ago?
Let us see this document that he signed.
Robert
2017-01-12 23:30:43 UTC
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Post by Robert
Post by duke
Post by Mattb.
Posted at Patrick Barker, Great Falls Central Catholic High School
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The Horrors of the Church and Its Holy Inquisition
http://churchandstate.org.uk/2016/04/the-horrors-of-the-church-and-its-holy-inquisition/
The Inquisition was an ecclesiastical court and process of the Roman
Catholic Church setup for the purpose towards the discovery and
punishment of heresy which wielded immense power and brutality in
medieval and early modern times.
Hey, firewater, did you get that. It's what I've been telling you.
You've been saying that the RCC didn't do this, but civil courts did.
The RCC set up the courts.
The civil authorities dealt out the punishments.
Prove it in all cases, liar.
Post by Patrick
Post by Robert
Post by duke
Post by Mattb.
The Inquisitions function was principally assembled to repress
all heretics of rights, depriving them of their estate and assets
which became subject to the ownership of the Catholic treasury, with
each relentlessly sought to destroy anyone who spoke, or even thought
differently to the Catholic Church.
“Anyone who attempts to construe a personal view of God which conflicts with
Church dogma must be burned without pity.”
– Pope Innocent III
And you so proud of that church.
Didn't that guy live a thousand years ago?
Let us see this document that he signed.
Patrick
2017-01-13 02:15:47 UTC
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Post by Robert
Post by Patrick
Post by Robert
Post by duke
Post by Mattb.
Posted at Patrick Barker, Great Falls Central Catholic High School
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The Horrors of the Church and Its Holy Inquisition
http://churchandstate.org.uk/2016/04/the-horrors-of-the-church-and-its-holy-inquisition/
The Inquisition was an ecclesiastical court and process of the Roman
Catholic Church setup for the purpose towards the discovery and
punishment of heresy which wielded immense power and brutality in
medieval and early modern times.
Hey, firewater, did you get that. It's what I've been telling you.
You've been saying that the RCC didn't do this, but civil courts did.
The RCC set up the courts.
The civil authorities dealt out the punishments.
Prove it in all cases, liar.
I am not aware of ALL Cases.
Are you?

the Catholic Church had significant religious and political power in
Europe. To maintain its authority, the church suppressed heretics. The
church had a very specific definition of heresy: A heretic publicly
declared his beliefs (based upon what the church considered inaccurate
interpretations of the Bible) and refused to denounce them, even after
being corrected by the authority. He also tried to teach his beliefs
to other people. He had to be doing these things by his own free will,
not under the influence of the devil.

The Spanish Inquisition was unique in that it was established by
secular rulers, King Ferdinand II and Queen Isabella, with the
approval of Pope Sixtus IV. The monarchy was Catholic, and it had just
united two kingdoms, Aragon and Castile, as a single country in the
late 15th century. Reasons for the Inquisition included a desire to
create religious unity and weaken local political authorities and
familial alliances. Money was another motive -- the government made a
profit by confiscating the property of those found guilty of heresy.
Historians speculate that the monarchy convinced Pope Sixtus IV to
allow the inquisition by threatening to remove Spanish troops from
Rome, where they were needed to prevent an attack by Turkey.

Waldensians and Cathars, members of spiritual movements that gained
popularity and threatened the authority of the Catholic Church, were
the primary targets of the Medieval Inquisition.
The Portuguese Inquisition was similar to the Spanish Inquisition in
that it operated under the monarchy. It wa­s established in 1536 and
targeted Jews and recent converts to Christianity, as well as accused
witches. The Portuguese Inquisition extended to Portugal's New World
colonies. A later Portuguese Inquisition, the Goa Inquisition,
targeted Hindus as well.

In 1998, Pope John Paul II addressed the International Symposium on
the Inquisition. In his address, he stated that "The Inquisition
belongs to a tormented phase in the history of the Church, which . . .
Christians examine in a spirit of sincerity and open-mindedness."
However, the Pope also stated that "before asking for forgiveness, it
is necessary to know the facts exactly and to recognize the
deficiencies in regard to evangelical exigencies in the cases where it
is so."

Six years later, the Symposium released a report of its findings,
which were based on studies of documents from the Vatican's Secret
Archives. According to the Symposium, most of the torture and
executions attributed to the Catholic Church during the various
inquisitions didn't occur at all. In addition, the total number of
accused heretics put to death during the Spanish Inquisition comprised
0.1 percent of the more than 40,000 who were tried. The number of
witches burned at the stake by the inquisitions in Spain, Italy and
Portugal was 99, out of more than 125,000 trials [source: Zenit]. In
fact, according to the Symposium, in some cases the inquisitions saved
lives by keeping accused heretics from secular authorities, who had
both the power and desire to execute them.

In 1252, Pope Innocent IV had issued a bull that allowed the use of
torture to get a confession. In the 16th century, the Spanish
inquisitors took advantage of this bull. This task was often assigned
to local authorities, but the inquisitors themselves participated as
well. If the accused confessed while being tortured, he had to confess
again while not under torture for the confession to count. Torture was
only supposed to be used if all other attempts at obtaining proof of
heresy had been exhausted.

http://history.howstuffworks.com/historical-figures/spanish-inquisition.htm
duke
2017-01-13 12:24:06 UTC
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Post by Mattb.
Posted at Patrick Barker, Great Falls Central Catholic High School
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The Horrors of the Church and Its Holy Inquisition
http://churchandstate.org.uk/2016/04/the-horrors-of-the-church-and-its-holy-inquisition/
The Inquisition was an ecclesiastical court and process of the Roman
Catholic Church setup for the purpose towards the discovery and
punishment of heresy which wielded immense power and brutality in
medieval and early modern times.
Hey, firewater, did you get that. It's what I've been telling you.
You've been saying that the RCC didn't do this, but civil courts did.
The RCC set up the courts.
The civil authorities dealt out the punishments.
Prove it in all cases, liar.
This from a clown that will NEVER support what he says..........because he
can't.

the dukester, American-American

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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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asherah
2017-01-14 07:19:11 UTC
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Are you going to answer walksalone's question. You know, this one.


Now, where is that message ID where you claim I called you a liar?

"Aristotle was once asked what those who tell lies gain by it. Said he,
"That when they speak truth they are not believed."
duke
2017-01-13 12:23:05 UTC
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Post by duke
Post by Mattb.
Posted at Patrick Barker, Great Falls Central Catholic High School
request
The Horrors of the Church and Its Holy Inquisition
http://churchandstate.org.uk/2016/04/the-horrors-of-the-church-and-its-holy-inquisition/
The Inquisition was an ecclesiastical court and process of the Roman
Catholic Church setup for the purpose towards the discovery and
punishment of heresy which wielded immense power and brutality in
medieval and early modern times.
Hey, firewater, did you get that. It's what I've been telling you.
You've been saying that the RCC didn't do this, but civil courts did.
Wrong, little vacuum brain. The inquirer definitely was sent by the Vatican. But
it was the civil servants that carried out the physical punishments.
Post by Robert
Post by duke
Post by Mattb.
The Inquisitions function was principally assembled to repress
all heretics of rights, depriving them of their estate and assets
which became subject to the ownership of the Catholic treasury, with
each relentlessly sought to destroy anyone who spoke, or even thought
differently to the Catholic Church.
“Anyone who attempts to construe a personal view of God which conflicts with
Church dogma must be burned without pity.”
– Pope Innocent III
And you so proud of that church.
Well, you know. European civil law was .............different in those days.

the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
duke
2017-01-13 18:32:06 UTC
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Post by duke
Post by Mattb.
Posted at Patrick Barker, Great Falls Central Catholic High School
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The Horrors of the Church and Its Holy Inquisition
http://churchandstate.org.uk/2016/04/the-horrors-of-the-church-and-its-holy-inquisition/
The Inquisition was an ecclesiastical court and process of the Roman
Catholic Church setup for the purpose towards the discovery and
punishment of heresy which wielded immense power and brutality in
medieval and early modern times.
Hey, firewater, did you get that. It's what I've been telling you.
You've been saying that the RCC didn't do this, but civil courts did.
Yep, the stake belonged to the European sheriff.
Post by Robert
Post by duke
Post by Mattb.
The Inquisitions function was principally assembled to repress
all heretics of rights, depriving them of their estate and assets
which became subject to the ownership of the Catholic treasury, with
each relentlessly sought to destroy anyone who spoke, or even thought
differently to the Catholic Church.
“Anyone who attempts to construe a personal view of God which conflicts with
Church dogma must be burned without pity.”
– Pope Innocent III
And you so proud of that church.
It's not a matter of being proud. It's the past and that can't be changed.
Post by Robert
Post by duke
the dukester, American-American
the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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asherah
2017-01-14 07:11:11 UTC
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Are you going to answer walksalone's question. You know, this one.


Now, where is that message ID where you claim I called you a liar?

"Aristotle was once asked what those who tell lies gain by it. Said he,
"That when they speak truth they are not believed."
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