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definitions of God
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David Dalton
2022-06-27 06:56:42 UTC
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One of my essential messages is:

"If you communicate with a someone you must know the definition
of that someone. A corollary is that, for non-atheists: if you
follow a deity name do not use the name blindly but know what
it means."

If you do not have a definition of God then there is no
match to the name God for you, and/or you may be opening
yourself to having an evil one grabbing the name and
pretending to be God.

So what is your definition of God?

Some possible definitions are:

1. The Creator, as in Genesis and in the Nicene Creed.
2. The all-governing someone, as in the Nicene Creed. Note
that the original Greek word in the Nicene Creed that is
generally translated as almighty actually means all-governing.
3. A historical definition, such as the God of Abraham, the
God of Moses, or the God of Jesus.
4. The personification of love.
5. The one who was incarnated as Jesus.
6. An organizational definition, e.g. the God of the Pope.
7. An experiential definition, i.e. the source of a mystic
experience one has had, such as my glowing blue rose vision,
which I think was the same as Moses's "burning that did
not consume."

And perhaps there are others.

I define my God as the ruler of the region all/everything,
which matches definition (2) above. God is the most
powerful someone, but is not the most loving someone.
Indeed another of my essential messages is:

"There is no someone who is BOTH all-powerful AND perfect
(or perfectly loving)."

I have divined that God did create that which most modern
cosmologists believe began with the Big Bang, which I
believe is a subset of all/everything. However such
divination has been unreliable for me, so I don't include
it (1) in my definition of God. Some may say that all
seven of the above definitions apply, but to avoid the
possibility of there being no match I just go with (2).
--
David Dalton ***@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page)
https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
"But once there was a darkness, deep and endless night
You gave me everything you had, oh you gave me light" (Sarah McLachlan)
z***@windstream.net
2022-06-27 19:58:40 UTC
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On Mon, 27 Jun 2022 04:26:42 -0230, David Dalton
Post by David Dalton
"If you communicate with a someone you must know the definition
of that someone. A corollary is that, for non-atheists: if you
follow a deity name do not use the name blindly but know what
it means."
If you do not have a definition of God then there is no
match to the name God for you, and/or you may be opening
yourself to having an evil one grabbing the name and
pretending to be God.
So what is your definition of God?
(Psalm 83:18) May people know that you, whose name is Jehovah, You
alone are the Most High over all the earth.

Sincerely James
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Post by David Dalton
1. The Creator, as in Genesis and in the Nicene Creed.
2. The all-governing someone, as in the Nicene Creed. Note
that the original Greek word in the Nicene Creed that is
generally translated as almighty actually means all-governing.
3. A historical definition, such as the God of Abraham, the
God of Moses, or the God of Jesus.
4. The personification of love.
5. The one who was incarnated as Jesus.
6. An organizational definition, e.g. the God of the Pope.
7. An experiential definition, i.e. the source of a mystic
experience one has had, such as my glowing blue rose vision,
which I think was the same as Moses's "burning that did
not consume."
And perhaps there are others.
I define my God as the ruler of the region all/everything,
which matches definition (2) above. God is the most
powerful someone, but is not the most loving someone.
"There is no someone who is BOTH all-powerful AND perfect
(or perfectly loving)."
I have divined that God did create that which most modern
cosmologists believe began with the Big Bang, which I
believe is a subset of all/everything. However such
divination has been unreliable for me, so I don't include
it (1) in my definition of God. Some may say that all
seven of the above definitions apply, but to avoid the
possibility of there being no match I just go with (2).
z***@windstream.net
2022-07-14 16:22:45 UTC
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On Mon, 27 Jun 2022 04:26:42 -0230, David Dalton
Post by David Dalton
"If you communicate with a someone you must know the definition
of that someone. A corollary is that, for non-atheists: if you
follow a deity name do not use the name blindly but know what
it means."
If you do not have a definition of God then there is no
match to the name God for you, and/or you may be opening
yourself to having an evil one grabbing the name and
pretending to be God.
So what is your definition of God?
1. The Creator, as in Genesis and in the Nicene Creed.
2. The all-governing someone, as in the Nicene Creed. Note
that the original Greek word in the Nicene Creed that is
generally translated as almighty actually means all-governing.
3. A historical definition, such as the God of Abraham, the
God of Moses, or the God of Jesus.
4. The personification of love.
5. The one who was incarnated as Jesus.
6. An organizational definition, e.g. the God of the Pope.
7. An experiential definition, i.e. the source of a mystic
experience one has had, such as my glowing blue rose vision,
which I think was the same as Moses's "burning that did
not consume."
And perhaps there are others.
I define my God as the ruler of the region all/everything,
which matches definition (2) above. God is the most
powerful someone, but is not the most loving someone.
"There is no someone who is BOTH all-powerful AND perfect
(or perfectly loving)."
I have divined that God did create that which most modern
cosmologists believe began with the Big Bang, which I
believe is a subset of all/everything. However such
divination has been unreliable for me, so I don't include
it (1) in my definition of God. Some may say that all
seven of the above definitions apply, but to avoid the
possibility of there being no match I just go with (2).
-- King James
Psalms 83:18 That men may know that thou, whose name alone is
Jehovah, art the most high over all the earth.


Sincerely James
A world out of control
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z***@windstream.net
2022-09-08 13:21:33 UTC
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On Mon, 27 Jun 2022 04:26:42 -0230, David Dalton
Post by David Dalton
"If you communicate with a someone you must know the definition
of that someone. A corollary is that, for non-atheists: if you
follow a deity name do not use the name blindly but know what
it means."
If you do not have a definition of God then there is no
match to the name God for you, and/or you may be opening
yourself to having an evil one grabbing the name and
pretending to be God.
So what is your definition of God?
1. The Creator, as in Genesis and in the Nicene Creed.
2. The all-governing someone, as in the Nicene Creed. Note
that the original Greek word in the Nicene Creed that is
generally translated as almighty actually means all-governing.
3. A historical definition, such as the God of Abraham, the
God of Moses, or the God of Jesus.
4. The personification of love.
5. The one who was incarnated as Jesus.
6. An organizational definition, e.g. the God of the Pope.
7. An experiential definition, i.e. the source of a mystic
experience one has had, such as my glowing blue rose vision,
which I think was the same as Moses's "burning that did
not consume."
And perhaps there are others.
I define my God as the ruler of the region all/everything,
which matches definition (2) above. God is the most
powerful someone, but is not the most loving someone.
On the contrary He is all love. (1 John 4:8) How do you define that
word?
Post by David Dalton
"There is no someone who is BOTH all-powerful AND perfect
(or perfectly loving)."
I have divined that God did create that which most modern
cosmologists believe began with the Big Bang, which I
believe is a subset of all/everything. However such
divination has been unreliable for me, so I don't include
it (1) in my definition of God. Some may say that all
seven of the above definitions apply, but to avoid the
possibility of there being no match I just go with (2).
God is both all love and almighty.

Sincerely James
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Lucifer
2022-09-08 22:06:31 UTC
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Post by z***@windstream.net
On Mon, 27 Jun 2022 04:26:42 -0230, David Dalton
Post by David Dalton
"There is no someone who is BOTH all-powerful AND perfect
(or perfectly loving)."
God is both all love and almighty.
You have proof no such God exists.
Post by z***@windstream.net
Sincerely James
David Dalton
2022-09-14 00:24:09 UTC
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Post by z***@windstream.net
On Mon, 27 Jun 2022 04:26:42 -0230, David Dalton
Post by David Dalton
"If you communicate with a someone you must know the definition
of that someone. A corollary is that, for non-atheists: if you
follow a deity name do not use the name blindly but know what
it means."
If you do not have a definition of God then there is no
match to the name God for you, and/or you may be opening
yourself to having an evil one grabbing the name and
pretending to be God.
So what is your definition of God?
1. The Creator, as in Genesis and in the Nicene Creed.
2. The all-governing someone, as in the Nicene Creed. Note
that the original Greek word in the Nicene Creed that is
generally translated as almighty actually means all-governing.
3. A historical definition, such as the God of Abraham, the
God of Moses, or the God of Jesus.
4. The personification of love.
5. The one who was incarnated as Jesus.
6. An organizational definition, e.g. the God of the Pope.
7. An experiential definition, i.e. the source of a mystic
experience one has had, such as my glowing blue rose vision,
which I think was the same as Moses's "burning that did
not consume."
And perhaps there are others.
I define my God as the ruler of the region all/everything,
which matches definition (2) above. God is the most
powerful someone, but is not the most loving someone.
On the contrary He is all love. (1 John 4:8) How do you define that
word?
Post by David Dalton
"There is no someone who is BOTH all-powerful AND perfect
(or perfectly loving)."
I have divined that God did create that which most modern
cosmologists believe began with the Big Bang, which I
believe is a subset of all/everything. However such
divination has been unreliable for me, so I don't include
it (1) in my definition of God. Some may say that all
seven of the above definitions apply, but to avoid the
possibility of there being no match I just go with (2).
God is both all love and almighty.
Then there is no match to your definition. There is no
someone who is both all governing and perfectly loving.
--
David Dalton ***@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page)
https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
³And the cart is on a wheel; And the wheel is on a hill;
And the hill is shifting sand; And inside these laws we stand" (Ferron)
tesla sTinker
2022-09-14 17:42:58 UTC
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go fuck yourself. If I listened to you I would wind up in hell.
That is what you want isn't devil?
Post by David Dalton
"If you communicate with a someone you must know the definition
of that someone. A corollary is that, for non-atheists: if you
follow a deity name do not use the name blindly but know what
it means."
If you do not have a definition of God then there is no
match to the name God for you, and/or you may be opening
yourself to having an evil one grabbing the name and
pretending to be God.
So what is your definition of God?
1. The Creator, as in Genesis and in the Nicene Creed.
2. The all-governing someone, as in the Nicene Creed. Note
that the original Greek word in the Nicene Creed that is
generally translated as almighty actually means all-governing.
3. A historical definition, such as the God of Abraham, the
God of Moses, or the God of Jesus.
4. The personification of love.
5. The one who was incarnated as Jesus.
6. An organizational definition, e.g. the God of the Pope.
7. An experiential definition, i.e. the source of a mystic
experience one has had, such as my glowing blue rose vision,
which I think was the same as Moses's "burning that did
not consume."
And perhaps there are others.
I define my God as the ruler of the region all/everything,
which matches definition (2) above. God is the most
powerful someone, but is not the most loving someone.
"There is no someone who is BOTH all-powerful AND perfect
(or perfectly loving)."
I have divined that God did create that which most modern
cosmologists believe began with the Big Bang, which I
believe is a subset of all/everything. However such
divination has been unreliable for me, so I don't include
it (1) in my definition of God. Some may say that all
seven of the above definitions apply, but to avoid the
possibility of there being no match I just go with (2).
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